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Kristen Parisi and John Tessitore; Pain as an Underlying Motivator for Growth and Gratitude

On today’s Gratitude Edition of Good Air, Kristen Parisi and John Tessitore join Joe to talk about Growth and Gratitude in uncertain times. Don’t miss this inspiring and holiday season themed conversation. Thanks for tuning in!

You can find more about them on Instagram at @kristenpafz14, @niicturessss, @jckfoundation, & @sincerely_joe. You can donate or learn about the services that JCK Foundation provides at

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This Week's Digest

In This Week’s Digest, Catherine and Francis reflect on their conversation with Rachel Crow, discussing the common belief around having to be “sick enough” to deserve treatment and how it’s important to give yourself permission to seek help and support when you need it. Finally, the co-hosts begin to unwrap the differences and intersection of body acceptance, body positivity, and body neutrality.

140 – Dr. Mark Rider – Revisioning for Grief and Trauma

“In complicated grief, what happens is, you haven’t just lost the person, you’ve lost your identity.” ~Dr. Mark Rider

Mark Rider, PhD, has developed a language for understanding the lyrical relationship between body and brain. “We learned how to use music improvisation to mirror a person’s pain, to mirror a person’s imagery of their cancer. And then we would change that music [so] it went in a healing direction.” 

His work might best be described as a chemical connect-the-dots. Dopamine. Endorphins. Serotonin. There’s a reason your favorite piece of music makes you feel good – the brain produces all three of these chemicals in response. 

Mark has adapted that mirroring further, creating a revolutionary treatment option called revisioning. In practice, the psychotherapy technique “activates” the same neurotransmitters of the brain when a client sits across from and communicates with a mirror image of their loved one (in the instance of grief) or themselves (in cases of trauma, depression, PTSD, etc). 

As someone who’s experienced the power of revisioning in my own healing work, I am deeply grateful that this modality exists. I’m fascinated by revisioning as a stand alone treatment and how it can be employed in tandem with other modalities for addressing complex trauma. You can hear a firsthand account of my personal revisioning experience on CWH episode 134. 


Dr. Mark Rider has been a licensed psychologist in Southlake, TX, for over 20 years. He has post-doctoral training in Neurotherapy, EMDR, Cognitive Hypnotherapy, and Psychopharmacology. His first book, The Rhythmic Language of Health and Disease (1997), demonstrated that neuroplastic shifts in the brain can be created by music and imagery, and were essential for health. His next book, Revisioning: Mirror Therapy for Unresolved Grief (2014) revolutionized the treatment of complicated grief. This technique has been shown to be 99% effective with this condition. Together with Lynn Heselton, their latest book, Revisioning: Rapid Mirror Neuron Psychotherapy for Grief and Trauma, has created groundbreaking treatments for PTSD, Personality Disorders, and Dissociative Disorders without the client having to relive the traumas. 

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The UNNI Podcast – w/Anthony Ray

Anthony Ray joins the UNNI Podcast, and shares his survivor story; losing his father to incarceration and his mother to an overdose, all before the age of 10. Growing up in below poverty, and in the kinship care of his older sister; identifying as a Latino gay male, and surviving a mugging and hate crime attack- Anthony had all of the odds stacked against him.
Instead of adopting the mindset of defeat, hopelessness; and continuing the generational cycles of addiction, incarceration, and poverty- Anthony became a celebrity stylist, and social advocate, who works to help others realize their beauty, strength, and boundaries!

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Hazelden Betty Ford Virtual Family and Children's Programs : Carrie Bates

Carrie Bates is the Outreach Manager in Oregon for Hazelden Betty Ford. Her career in the treatment field began in 2013, after her own personal battle with addiction. Prior to that, she spent the better part of her sales and marketing career at Nike, Inc. after her own successful athletic career as a three-time Olympic Gold Medalist. Carrie got sober in 2012 and has dedicated her life’s work to helping others find treatment and recovery. Carrie brings with her a deep passion for recovery, and a strong belief that treatment saves lives. Carrie has held multiple positions within the treatment field including working directly with employers, patients and their families to navigate the process of finding the treatment they need for sustainable recovery. Carrie lives in Portland, Oregon with her husband and two daughters. She is an active member of the Twelve Step Community, and enjoys spending time with her family, running and competing in triathlons.

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How Estrogen and Brain Shame Affect Women with ADHD

Psychotherapist Sari Solden is a pioneer in the field of women with ADHD. Her new workbook with co-author Michelle Frank PsyD, A Radical Guide for Women with ADHD, shows women how to cultivate their strengths and learn to communicate with confidence and clarity. She and Ned talk about how hormones affect a woman’s executive function, why “brain shame” holds women back,  and why it’s never too late to be diagnosed with ADHD. 

You can find Sari’s blog at ADHD Radical Guide.

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Dr. Hallowell’s new book, ADHD 2.0, comes out January 12th. Pre-order Now!  Click here to pre-order your copy of ADHD 2.0

Thanks to our sponsor, OmegaBrite Wellness! Dr. H takes OmegaBrite supplements every day and that’s why he invited them to sponsor his podcast. SAVE 20% on your first order at with the promo code: Podcast2020. 

Click HERE to learn more about our sponsor, Landmark College, in Putney, Vermont. It’s the college of choice for students who learn differently. Dr. H has an honorary degree from Landmark! 

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