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98. Shira Charpentier (she/her) and Tasha Golding (she/her) discuss different approaches to recovery

Hi Navigators! Catherine and Francis welcome Shira Charpentier and Tasha Golding to the podcast for a meaningful discussion about their lived experience, recovery, treatment, and the different paths that lead us to healing. Shira began her nonprofit, Beyond Rules Recovery, in 2019 as a way to support others who experience eating disorders and are looking for their own healing; and Tasha joined Shira in 2021 after her own recovery. Together they share the same desire to change the outcome of future generations and empower individuals worldwide, and focus on educating individuals about eating disorders and recovery. It was truly a wonderful, insightful conversation, and we hope those who listen are able to connect and take away pieces they can use moving forward in their own experiences. Enjoy!

97. Angelo Thomas (he/him), a filmmaker and mental health advocate, discussed his recovery through treatment and art

Hi Navigators! Catherine and Francis are excited to welcome Angelo Thomas to the podcast. Angelo is a filmmaker and mental health advocate, and has directed, produced, and edited two feature films, The Incredible Jake Parker and DeRosa: Life, Love & Art in Transition. Currently, he serves as the Digital & Social Media Director with Mental Health America, where he oversees the organization’s overall voice and messaging across all social media platforms. Previously, Angelo worked with the National Eating Disorders Association (NEDA) as the Associate Manager of Communications. In this episode, Angelo welcomes listeners into his recovery journey from anorexia nervosa, including how admitting to treatment, developing his ever-evolving story, and writing and film all played significant parts in his healing. Angelo’s passion for mental health advocacy stems from his own lived experience. Since recovering in 2018, he has been proud to give a voice to men, Latin Americans, and LGBTQ+ folks affected by eating disorders and other mental health concerns. We were thrilled to have him and hope you have a chance to check out his work and advocacy.

CW: eating disorder behaviors, strained parental relationships, eating disorder treatment, talk of weight

96. Amanda Campbell (she/hers), fashion designer and advocate, talks finding purpose as a path towards healing from disordered eating

Hi Navigators! We’re back, and we’re excited to kick off Season Three of Eating Disorders: Navigating Recovery Podcast with Amanda Campbell, lead designer at Sassy Jones, a fashion and lifestyle brand that offers audacious style solutions for statement-making women. Amanda joins the podcast to talk about her lived experience with anorexia nervosa and how finding motivation for healing and body acceptance through sewing and designing – a skill she learned at a young age – helped give her a sense a purpose. In recalling a moment when she made her first pair of pants, Amanda delivers a powerful message to all who seek healing from their own lived experience. Now, working in an industry she loves, Amanda wants to share that love by empowering others with clothing that makes them feel confident, strong, and beautiful in their own skin. It was really wonderful to have her on the show – we certainly felt empowered afterwards! Enjoy!

Welcome to Season Three!

Hi Navigators! We’re thrilled to be back behind the mics, connecting and sharing with our incredible listeners, with our amazing guests, and with each other. While we introducing a slightly different release schedule, we think this season’s slate of guests bring the same insight, passion, vulnerability, and humanism to each conversation. In a new twist, if you have a specific topic you’d like the hosts to discuss during an episode, reach out – we want to hear from you and address topics important to our listeners directly!

Thank you for being with us along this journey – we’re so happy to be back with you!

Episode 95: Dr. Breese Annable (she/hers) talks shame and healing from an eating disorder, and where diet culture plays a role

Hi Navigators! Catherine and Francis are excited to welcome Dr. Breese Annable, a Licensed Clinical Psychologist, Certified Eating Disorder Specialist, and owner of Living Balance Psychotherapy, a private practice based in Asheville, North Carolina (yes, this is yet another connection through the amazing Carolina Resource Center for Eating Disorders!). Breese specializes in working with clients who also have co-occurring Borderline Personality Disorder, anxiety disorders, and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. She is passionate about raising awareness on the damaging effects of diet culture and providing education on weight neutral approaches to health. In this episode, Breese talks about shame, why it’s not necessarily a “bad” emotion to feel, and potential antidotes to help manage a typically distressing emotion. When it comes to diet culture, Breese takes an approach that we cannot unlearn what we’ve been sold our entire lives, so we must learn about diet culture for what it is, and not what we’ve been told. As she poignantly inquires, “what if there’s nothing wrong with you…what if the solution you’ve been sold is the problem.” We were so grateful for her time and energy!

CW: eating disorders, diet culture, healing stories, disordered eating

Episode 94: Ari Pence (she/her), Family Medicine Physician, talks destigmatizing disordered eating and body image in healthcare

Hi Navigators! Today, Catherine and Francis welcome Ari Pence to the podcast. Ari is a Family Medicine Physician, practicing full-spectrum family medicine, including obstetrical and delivery care. She is passionate about destigmatizing and providing excellent for patients struggling with eating disorders, prenatal and postpartum mood disorders, or addiction. She also has completed advanced training in Integrative Medicine through the Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine. In this episode, Ari dissects how language, active listening, and provider education are critical means to closing the gap and stigma many patients with eating disorders, disordered eating, and body image concerns experience when visiting a medical provider. She outlines how physicians can more effectively talk about body image and disordered eating with patients, starting with creating an accountable space to address these topics, particularly with adolescents, and includes asking for consent to even begin the conversation. On the topic of weight, Dr. Pence argues that it is on the healthcare provider – not the patient – to address weight stigma and offer a space where weighing someone doesn’t necessarily have to happen (there are certain circumstances where it may be needed). Ari brings a fresh, patient-centered perspective to medical practice, and speaks with passion, intellect, and care. We are so grateful for her time and energy – it was such a pleasure!

Episode 93: Domenica Feraud (she/her) is an actor, writer, and first-generation Ecuadorian sharing her experience with disordered eating

Hi Navigators! Catherine and Francis are excited to welcome Domenica Feraud, a first-generation Ecuadorian writer and actor from New York City, on the podcast to share her journey with disordered eating, body image dissatisfaction, and recovery. Pieces of that journey made its way into a play she wrote — titled RINSE, REPEAT — focusing on a family’s experience after the daughter returns home from inpatient treatment. RINSE, REPEAT, which Domenica also starred in, premiered at the Signature Theatre in 2019 and was a New York Times Critic’s Pick. Through her writing and her own lived experience, Domenica shares the experience of an immigrant trying to assimilate to unrealistic body standards of the United States, how misogyny teaches people to perceive women as “too much”, and how her own mother continues to grow and change as Domenica’s recovery continues. Currently, she is working on a collection of essays unpacking the role that popular culture plays in our conditioning. It was truly wonderful having this brilliant, vulnerable person on the podcast, and we hope you find connection as we did!

CW: eating disorders, eating disorder behaviors, conversations about race and gender, body image perception and dissatisfaction, food, weight, misogyny, diet culture, predation

Special Digest: It's the Podcast's Two Year Anniversary!

June 1st is the podcast’s two year anniversary! Catherine and Francis take a moment to reflect on what it’s been like hosting this podcast, thanking guests and listeners, and sharing their thoughts on what’s next. This podcast is a place to listen, learn, engage, connect, and relate, and none of it is possible without the vulnerability and courage of our guests and, of course, without the amazing Navigators who tune in regularly to be a part of this journey and bring forth their own vulnerable selves. Thank you a million times – we’re incredibly grateful! Tune in for the rest of season two (continuing this Saturday with an incredible interview) and for what’s next in season three!

Episode 92: Jillian Rigert (she/hers) discusses eating disorders and identity, arrival fallacy, imposter syndrome, motivation, and recovery

Hi Navigators! We have a remarkable guest to introduce to you all today. Jillian Rigert, DMD, MD, joins Catherine and Francis to explore an array of topics, including Jillian’s experience with an eating disorder and her recovery. She shares her relationship with anorexia nervosa as it relates to her identity, and how psychological and cognitive distortions and conditions like arrival fallacy, imposter syndrome, confirmation bias, and burnout all impacted her journey – both in difficult and uplifting ways. Jillian is a current trainee in Martha Beck’s Wayfinder Life Coach Program, and has formal training in dentistry, medicine, and oral medicine. She is an Air Force Veteran, research fellow in Radiation Oncology, blogger and buddying activist on topics including anti-diet culture and eating disorder recovery. She brings these experiences to this platform in profound and insightful ways. And as a bonus, she introduces us all to her dog Reece! We hope there are pieces in this conversation which feel relatable and comforting, and of course, we thank Jillian for her time, energy, and intellect. Enjoy!

CW: eating disorders, eating disorder recovery, eating disorder behaviors, suicidal ideation, discussion about weight-stigma and BMI, weight bias, military culture, medical bias and culture


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