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BONUS EPISODE – Back from the Abyss

I’m happy to share with you an amazing podcast called Back From the Abyss! Our latest conversation was with Dr. Craig Heacock where we spoke a bit about his experiences working with psychedelics in psychotherapy.

This episode “MDMA and the Inner Healer” showcases the story of a client and his experience with the MDMA-assisted therapy sessions. It’s incredible! I’m sure you’ll be as touched by this episode as I was. 

And of course, if you like this episode, make sure to follow/subscribe Back From the Abyss on your favorite podcast platform. 

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Sarah’s virtual speaking gigs:

 

Wednesday, June 3, 11am Central  

Illinois Higher Education Center – Trauma and Substance Abuse

https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/4346826168318216715

 

Tuesday, June 16, 1pm Central  

New Hampshire Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselors Association – The Wounded Healer https://www.nhadaca.org/event-3805324/Registration

114 – Craig Heacock – Back From the Abyss With Psychedelic-Assisted Psychotherapy

“I’ve had a lot of losses and vicarious trauma in my practice and, I think, starting Back From The Abyss was also a way for me to put out just balloons of hope into the world and to remind myself that people do get better and people heal and people do the hard work of therapy.” ~Dr. Craig Heacock

For every harrowing loss with which Dr. Craig Heacock has had to come to terms, his practice is also populated by people who are recovering and thriving. He created Back From The Abyss in 2019 with those clients in mind as a way to share their stories of hope and healing. 

A quick glance at the podcast’s episode guide speaks to the broad range of topics. The reoccurring focus, however, is on psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy, namely the use of ketamine and MDMA as therapeutic tools. Often maligned by us as street or club drugs, psychopharmacology has the potential to accelerate trust within the client/therapist relationship and enhance outcomes. 

Dr Heacock provides some much-needed context to this fascinating subject and shares his own journey to resilience before answering our favorite healer questions. 

HEADS UP: Be on the lookout for a Back From The Abyss episode right here on the CWH feed.

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Dr. Craig Heacock is an adolescent/adult psychiatrist and addiction specialist in Colorado. In addition to producing and hosting a psychiatric storytelling podcast called Back from the Abyss, he is a co-therapist in the Phase 3 trial of MDMA-Assisted Psychotherapy for PTSD. Dr. Heacock has a particular interest in the use of ketamine and other psychedelics to treat severe mood disorders and PTSD. He is a graduate of the University of New Mexico School of Medicine and did his psychiatry training at Brown University. 

For full show notes, guest information, and resources, visit: http://www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast

Conversations with a Wounded Healer is a proud member of @mhnrnetwork.

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

Website:

www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/WoundedHealr/

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartTherapy/

Instagram: 

@headhearttherapy

Twitter:

@WoundedHealr

@HeadHeart_Chi

 

Sarah’s virtual speaking gigs:

 

Wednesday, June 3, 11am Central  

Illinois Higher Education Center – Trauma and Substance Abuse

https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/4346826168318216715

 

Tuesday, June 16, 1pm Central  

New Hampshire Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselors Association – The Wounded Healer https://www.nhadaca.org/event-3805324/Registration

113 – Carrie Wiita and Ben Fineman – Very Bad Therapy

“Well, that could’ve gone better…” Ever leave a therapy session wondering where things went off the rails or what you might’ve done differently? 

Meet your new best friends Carrie Wiita and Ben Fineman, co-hosts of Very Bad Therapy! They dropped by to discuss their show and managed to turn the tables on yours truly with questions of their own!

VBT teases out the woulda, coulda, shoulda moments from some of the worst in-real-life therapy session stories that Carrie and Ben have ever heard. But they’re not here to dish out blame-and-shame. Instead, they offer enlightened, empathetic course correction within a safe space, allowing vulnerability and professionalism to co-exist. If you’ve ever listened to a cringe-worthy therapy tale and thought ‘Oh no, I’ve done that, too!’, we’re here for you.

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Very Bad Therapy gives voice to the stories that begin with an exasperated “You would not believe what happened with my therapist.” Weekly episodes explore real-life stories of very bad therapy experiences as hosts Carrie Wiita and Ben Fineman seek to learn from diverse guests and experts in the field who help shed light on how things could have gone better. Supported by scientific research and a mission to bring out the best in psychotherapy through discussion of its worst moments, Very Bad Therapy is a corrective emotional experience for clinicians and clients alike.

 

Conversations with a Wounded Healer is a proud member of @mhnrnetwork.

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

Website:

www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/WoundedHealr/

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartTherapy/

Instagram: 

@headhearttherapy

Twitter:

@WoundedHealr

@HeadHeart_Chi

 

Sarah’s virtual speaking gigs:

Wednesday, June 3, 11am Central  

Illinois Higher Education Center – Trauma and Substance Abuse

https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/4346826168318216715

 

Tuesday, June 16, 1pm Central  

New Hampshire Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselors Association – The Wounded Healer https://www.nhadaca.org/event-3805324/Registration

 

112 – Derrick Dawson – Dismantling Racism

“We have inherited a system and there’s nothing we can do about it except acknowledge that and dismantle it. But if we don’t acknowledge it, then we are actually maintaining [it].” ~Derrick Dawson

A conversation that eloquently connects the dots between capitalism and systemic racism? Straight talk about our American way of life and the foundation of white supremacy upon which it was built? Yes, please, to both! 

Derrick Dawson, co-program coordinator of the Regional Organizing for Anti-Racism, aka Chicago Roar, sheds light on the myriad ways white supremacy continues to fester and flourish. Using the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic as metaphor and proving ground, Derrick hits our collective compliance with his high-powered truth rays. He exposes us to the vicious strategies employed by corporations and power-brokers hell-bent on destroying our relationship to our planet, our communities, and ourselves. Once you see the light, I guarantee you won’t be able to look away.  

Derrick C. Dawson is Co-Program Coordinator for Chicago Regional Organizing for Antiracism (Chicago ROAR), and an organizer and trainer for Crossroads Antiracism Organizing & Training. He is also an ADA 25 Advancing Leadership 2020 Fellow.  He served on the Standing Committee of the Episcopal Diocese of Chicago, and served several terms as Co-Chair of the Antiracism Commission of the Chicago Diocese. Before becoming an antiracism organizer and trainer, Derrick served in the United States Navy as a broadcaster and journalist in the Pacific, and worked for over 20 years as a corporate trainer for major law firms in Chicago. He studied English and Linguistics at Northeastern Illinois University in Chicago where he received a Bachelor’s degree.

Conversations with a Wounded Healer is a proud member of @mhnrnetwork.

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

Website:

www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/WoundedHealr/

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartTherapy/

Instagram: 

@headhearttherapy

Twitter:

@WoundedHealr

@HeadHeart_Chi

 

Sarah’s virtual speaking gigs:

Wednesday, June 3, 11am Central  

Illinois Higher Education Center – Trauma and Substance Abuse

https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/4346826168318216715

 

Tuesday, June 16, 1pm Central  

New Hampshire Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselors Association – The Wounded Healer https://www.nhadaca.org/event-3805324/Registration

111 – Nate Postlethwait – The Other Side of Saved

“Forgiveness is not a tool to heal trauma.” ~Nate Postlethwait

Here’s the thing about my conversation with Nate Postlethwait: his story made this Wounded Healer all sorts of mad – in the best possible way! 

Buckle in because Nate’s journey from confused and closeted to out and authentic is a white-knuckle ride on the complex trauma rollercoaster. There are enviable highs – travel, career success. There are stomach-churning lows – sexual abuse, intense religious indoctrination, conversion therapy. And then, there’s a moment of messy, divine clarity when a broken man grabbed hold of his agency, stepped off that ride and found the other side of saved.

Now, Nate’s ready to share the lessons he’s learned from “doing the work”. He’s currently busy prepping a coaching program with a unique six months on/one month off timeline. 

Beyond that, Nates wants to give back by creating a safe megaphone for others to use. “This version of the ride has come to a complete stop but there’s so much more to Nate’s story on the podcast! Go. Listen. Now!

For complete show notes and links to connect with Nate, visit http://www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast.

GUEST BIO

In 2018, Nate Postlethwait sold almost everything he owned, left a lucrative career and boarded a plane for Croatia. He traveled internationally for six months while sharing his story of overcoming complex trauma, his battle with addiction and eventually coming out as gay. The story exposes the vulnerabilities many of us feel, but are afraid to say out loud. Several thousand people are following along and a community of survivors are finding solace amongst others who know their pain. 

Heads up: This conversation was recorded before shelter-in-place orders were rolled out across the US to mitigate the spread of COVID-19. You won’t hear any reference to the pandemic in the episode beyond my introduction.

Conversations with a Wounded Healer is a proud member of @mhnrnetwork.

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

Website:

www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/WoundedHealr/

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartTherapy/

Instagram: 

@headhearttherapy

Twitter:

@WoundedHealr

@HeadHeart_Chi

 

Sarah’s upcoming virtual speaking gigs:

Wednesday, June 3, 11am Central  

Illinois Higher Education Center – Trauma and Substance Abuse

https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/4346826168318216715

 

Tuesday, June 16, 1pm Central  

New Hampshire Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselors Association – The Wounded Healer

https://www.nhadaca.org/event-3805324/Registration

110 – Traveling the Light Path with Monika Black

“The whole system was created to keep you distracted onto a battlefield. You could not have been put on this wonderful journey called life to fight. That could not be what we are here to do.” ~Monika Black 

What do you get when a leadership maximizer and the Wounded Healer get together to discuss light and shadow, happiness and shame? A roadmap to joy and an invitation to claim your agency, naturally! 

Besides being an amazing human, Monika Black, PhD., is a positive psychology expert who’s shifted to coaching, a space she says allows her to live and lead with authenticity.

Pick an -ism (capitalism, racism, sexism, colonialism) and drill down to its essence, to the core of shame and pain. That’s where adherents to and victims of the dark -isms find themselves, existing in the shadows. The -isms take away individual agency and force victims to work from a deficit. 

Monika sees her role as a guide out from under dark power structures. 

“I can’t dispel the shadows,” she said, “but in the light, they are irrelevant.” Her words read like a mantra and, in many ways, that’s Monika’s work distilled to its most vital and pure sentiment. She’s here to show her clients how they can address the shadows and ultimately reclaim the gifts of inner lightness and joy.

For complete show notes and links to connect with Monika, visit http://www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast.

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Conversations with a Wounded Healer is a proud member of @mhnrnetwork.

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

Website:

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Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/WoundedHealr/

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartTherapy/

Instagram:

@headhearttherapy

Twitter:

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@HeadHeart_Chi

109 – Adena Bank Lees – Psychodrama and Covert Emotional Incest

“You do your personal work. We really believe that we’re the change agents and we can’t take our clients anywhere we haven’t gone.” ~Adena Bank Lees

Adena Bank Lees, LCSW, LISAC, BCETS, CP is an accomplished speaker, author, experiential trainer, and consultant working in traumatic stress and addiction. She’s a leading authority on, and advocate for, psychodrama, a modality that employs guided role-play in private or group sessions. And Adena’s encyclopedic knowledge of her field is as impressive as her compassion and empathy are genuine. 

This is one of those rich, inviting conversations that begs to be bookmarked for future re-listens; it’s just that good!  

Adena clients face a wide range of challenges, from transgenerational trauma to covert emotional incest. She creates safe spaces in which intuition helps them rework their personal stories. This isn’t an erasure of the past. Nor is it an exercise in traditional forgiveness.

“It’s the feeling, it’s the understanding, it’s the grieving of the losses, of the hopes and the dreams. And the I wish my childhood was like this. It wasn’t. I can’t go back. But, I got to grieve and at some point to make the choice. I’m not going to hold onto this anger.” 

Accepting that we can live vibrantly and wholely with our wounds is a byproduct of owning one’s agency. It’s for this reason that Adena adamantly advises therapists to embark on self-healing journeys so they can better understand the client experience. 

Asked if she considers herself a wounded healer, she says, “I don’t see myself as wounded anymore. I have parts that are wounded, but me as a whole? No. And I believe that was an important stage, an identity for me to have. And to be and to move through. I have wounds and I am in the process of assisting other people to heal.” 

Truth!

Note: This interview was recorded well before shelter-in-place orders were instituted across the United States in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Consequently, the conversation does not reference the crisis. 

For complete show notes and links to connect with Adena, visit http://www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast.

Conversations with a Wounded Healer is a proud member of @mhnrnetwork.

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

Website:

www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/WoundedHealr/

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartTherapy/

Instagram: 

@headhearttherapy

Twitter:

@WoundedHealr

@HeadHeart_Chi

107 – Liza Kindred – Eff This! Meditation for When You’re Feeling Anxious, Stressed-Out, or Overwhelmed

I’ve tried meditation but…eff that! 

Sound familiar? If meditation’s super-precious, über-enlightened rep has put you off in the past, Sarah’s guest Liza Kindred is here to reintroduce you to the practice – using language that this wounded healer is down with! Liza is a wearable tech consultant, a trauma-informed meditation instructor in training, and the author of Eff This! Meditation: 108 Tips, Tricks, and Ideas for When You’re Feeling Anxious, Stressed-Out, or Overwhelmed

In addition, she’s also the creator of the Eff This! Meditation community, home to free meditation resources as well as a soon-to-be-launched online course. Accomplished as Liza is, she’s about as unlikely a guide as you’ll find within the rarified ranks of meditation teachers. In other words, she’s perfect AF.

“Have you heard of the phrase teach from the scar, not from the wound?” Liza asks near the end of the conversation. The quote, she says, reminds healers, parents, and teachers of all practices to use their wounds for good. But, doing so authentically can only be accomplished after the teacher has embarked on their own healing journey. 

For her book, Liza borrowed wisdom from a millennia’s worth of teachings and distilled it into a guide for the modern age. Easy to flip through yet substantial enough to have an impact on even the most sceptical AF reader, Eff This! is mindfulness for anyone not buying into the Insta-imagery of what spirituality should look like. Instead, her book gives everyone permission to come into practice as they are. 

“That’s one of the things I love about meditation and that I teach,” she says. “There are so many ways to do it. There’s different techniques that we can do and different things we can try with full respect for the fundamentals of where the practice came from. There is a richness of experience out there. If we’re trying something and it’s maybe not resonating, try something else, you know?”

Yaaaassss!

For complete show notes and links to connect with Liza, visit http://www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast.

Special invitation for you! 

Sarah is hosting a complimentary online gathering April 1st, 2020 from 7-8pm CST to support those of us feeling anxious, isolated or overwhelmed by current events.

Join us tonight at 7pm CST here: https://fordham.zoom.us/j/536731875

Conversations with a Wounded Healer is a proud member of @mhnrnetwork.

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

Website:

www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/WoundedHealr/

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartTherapy/

Instagram: 

@headhearttherapy

Twitter:

@WoundedHealr

@HeadHeart_Chi

106 – Gregory Koufacos – Walking Alongside Emerging Men in the Real World

“I’m very grateful for the wounds that I have acquired in my life. And I see now how those wounds were openings to something greater.” ~Gregory Koufacos

The patriarchy, amiright?! They’re an easy (and rightfully) targeted group. However, there’s an entire generation growing up under the influence of our current system. What are we – therapists and society in general – doing to help them heal from the twin scourges of addiction and toxic masculinity? 

Gregory Koufacos MA, LCADC, NCRC, founder and CEO of Velocity Mentoring, is the bright light in the dark tunnel, not at the end of it. He and Sarah discuss his work with emerging men and bond over what addiction therapy practitioners can do to better support this community. 

So where do we begin? What can we do to advance the healing? Glad you asked! 

Primal Method, Greg’s soon-to-be-published book, addresses those very same questions. “A big part of the process is teaching men that we cannot take what we want, right?” It’s common-sense messaging that’s rarely reinforced within the male population. 

“I want to immediately start to work with them and mentor them and move alongside life with them, to lead them and to go on a path of victory.”

Light in the tunnel!

Special invitation for you! 

Sarah is hosting a complimentary online gathering April 1st, 2020 from 7-8pm CST to support those of us feeling anxious, isolated or overwhelmed by current events.

Go to: https://www.surveymonkey.com/rSPQP896 and share your email to receive an invitation to join.

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Leave a review in Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/conversations-with-a-wounded-healer/id1356225272

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

Website:

www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/WoundedHealr/

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartTherapy/

Instagram: 

@headhearttherapy

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@WoundedHealr

@HeadHeart_Chi

Conversations with a Wounded Healer is a proud member of @mhnrnetwork.

For full show notes including resources discussed and our guests’ contact information, visit http://www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast.

105 – Robin Winn – Human Design: Who You Really Are

“Each person is uniquely designed and each person is part of a big, giant puzzle of humanity.” ~Robin Winn

This episode is like…your brain on pure, vibrational energy. Robin Winn, veteran therapist, Human Design specialist, and the best-selling author of Understanding Your Clients Through Human Design, chats with Sarah about how this relatively new system of awareness can radically alter the way we interact and empower us to see (and appreciate!) each other for who we really are.

Using Sarah’s chart as an example, Robin explains some of the systems key components, including the four types of humanity. The results are compelling. Her analysis zeros in on this Wounded Healer’s strengths, weaknesses, and childhood struggles. “This is why it’s so helpful for a therapist or a coach or a business!” Robin says. “If I could do this for therapists, if I could use this with coaches, just think how much more quickly they could support their clients on their path and how empowering it would be!” 

Just think, indeed! 

Robin’s so passionate about the impact Human Design can have on the parent-child relationship as well as client-therapist interactions, she’s offering CWH listeners a free copy of her book! Simply drop her an email using “Sarah” in the subject line to robin@clientsandhumandesign.com. Mind. Blown. Thank you, Robin!

Special invitation for you! 

Sarah is hosting a complimentary online gathering April 1st, 2020 from 7-8pm CST to support those of us feeling anxious, isolated or overwhelmed by current events.

Go to: https://www.surveymonkey.com/rSPQP896 and share your email to receive an invitation to join.

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Join me on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/WoundedHealr 

Leave a review in Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/conversations-with-a-wounded-healer/id1356225272

For full show notes including resources discussed and our guests’ contact information, visit http://www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast.

Conversations with a Wounded Healer is a proud member of @mhnrnetwork.

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

Website:

www.headhearttherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/WoundedHealr/

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartTherapy/

Instagram: 

@headhearttherapy

Twitter:

@WoundedHealr

@HeadHeart_Chi

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